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California and the Proposition 8

30 October 2008 Comments

Posted by Sherwin

In California, the biggest campaign ads aren’t from the McCain or Obama camps. One social subject is getting big bucks and big air time: gay marriage.

California voters on Nov. 4 will decide whether to pass Prop. 8–which eliminates right of same-sex couples to marry. Polls show that the race for the proposition is tight and both sides say a loss would be devastating.

Eric Borsum was delighted when he was finally able to marry Eric Miller, his partner of nine years. But he was also worried. He knew there was a possibility Proposition 8 would pass, and if it did, his matrimony would be thrown into legal limbo.

If voters next week approve the initiative to ban gay weddings, legal analysts on both sides of the measure foresee that an episode of “legal chaos” will arise, with the legality of same-sex marriages performed between June and November suddenly in doubt.

Supporters of Proposition 8, so far, have raised $27.5 million, with about 19 percent of the money coming from outside California. Opponents have raised $31.2 million including Apple Inc. which has contributed $100,000 to the campaign against the scheme.

In a room on the top floor of an evangelical church in San Diego, dozens of Christians are engaged in 40 days of round-the-clock praying and fasting. They are asking God to stop gay marriage in California.

Many Christians accept that scripture forbids homosexuality. If gay marriage is allowed to happen, some evangelicals suggest, it would force churches to marry gays and require schools to teach gay marriage.

In case Prop. 8 fails, ministers who preach against same-sex marriages may be sued for hate speech and churches may be sued if they refuse to allow same-sex marriage ceremonies in their religious buildings open to the public.

Now is the time for us to be fair. Gay couples are requesting for a chance to play by the rules. We can give them that chance. And after all, we live in a democracy, not a theocracy.

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  • Robert
    Hallelujah! Excellent article...Make no mistake about this: Proposition 8 is not about schools or children. It's about fairness and equality. I have never seen a proposition that's more malicious and more misleading thank Prop. 8. Basically, if Prop. 8 passes with California voters, the law will "write discrimination" into the California constitution by making it illegal to marry someone of the same sex. As someone who has been with a partner for over 16 years, I find this offensive and horrifying.

    And yes, I am a deeply religious (I'm Jewish) gay, Filipino man!

    Thank you,

    Robert
  • SherwinMarasigan
    Everyone should have the choice to marry the person they love.
  • Michael
    Churches WILL NOT lose their tax exemption if they refuse to marry or preach against same-sex couples. The California Supreme Court specifically said that "no religion will be required to change its religious policies or practices with regard to same-sex couples, and no religious officiant will be required to solemnize a marriage in contravention of his or her religious beliefs.” <http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/presscenter/newsrel...>

    In addition, 59 law professors launched a joint statement yesterday saying that Prop 8 has nothing to do with churches and schools and exists only to discriminate against the LGBT community. <http://www.noonprop8.com/downloads/MarriageStat...>

    Prop 8 is just wrong. Rights are to be given, not taken. Please vote NO on Prop 8.
  • SherwinMarasigan
    Thanks for the links Mike. Proposition 8 threatens marital liberty, discriminates against natural citizens and should not be voted for.
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  • Gizelle
    Proposition 8 is not a new scenario in every single side of the globe. If it cannot be stopped, then so be it. But spare the schools in teaching further about gay marriages and the churches to marry gay guys. I don't know why, but I'm not giving a yes to this thing. That's my opinion.
  • A CONCERNED PARENT
    I cant believe how naive all of you are. If prop 8 does not pass, then eventually our children will be taught homosexuality in school. I dont give a damn what homosexuals do or if the are "married" to one another but I give a HUGE DAMN about whether my children learn about something like that. That is not for the school to teach but for the parent. Hell frickin no way will I vote "NO" on this. I am VOTING YES FOR THE SAKE OF MY CHILDREN. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT ALL YOU People that call us homophobs we are not homophobs we just want the CHOICE in what our children are taught. So DONT PUSH YOUR SO CALLED RIGHTS ON US. AND I DONT THINK THIS IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE. YOUR SEXUALITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS. WHY SHOULD 2% of the population have a right to tell me and other parents what my children should be taught. F YOU!
  • Laurie
    While I am voting yes on Prop. 8, I am deeply offended by "A Concerned Parent". I've spent the last several days blogging about this issue and expressing my opinions. It has concerned me that the "discussions" are not "discussions" at all, but name calling and foul language -- from the No on 8 side -- this is the first time I've seen it from the Yes on 8 side. It's interesting to see how people treat each other from behind the safety of a computer screen. I'm voting yes because I believe it is the right thing to do -- but I deeply love the two family members who are gay, as well as many gay family friends. You can love people, treat them kindly, and still agree to disagree.
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